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#78858 by oomadan
Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:12 pm
This may be a new record for porting a number to Ooma,4 days!! Started port from Vonage 4/4, completed 4/8 at noon. Very happy so far :D
#78871 by Davesworld
Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:19 pm
Still three days longer than what is legal and as I said in another thread, it is the losing carrier that determines how quickly the port takes place and also as I said in another thread, you are bragging about the losing carrier's handling of this, not Ooma's. We're not out of the woods yet by a long shot. Not sure how well the FCC is going to be able to enforce the new mandate of which small carriers had until Feb 2011 to comply, larger carriers were supposed to last August.

http://www.commlawblog.com/2010/05/arti ... e-numbers/
#78873 by EA PA
Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:53 pm
Davesworld wrote:Still three days longer than what is legal and as I said in another thread, it is the losing carrier that determines how quickly the port takes place and also as I said in another thread, you are bragging about the losing carrier's handling of this, not Ooma's. We're not out of the woods yet by a long shot. Not sure how well the FCC is going to be able to enforce the new mandate of which small carriers had until Feb 2011 to comply, larger carriers were supposed to last August.

http://www.commlawblog.com/2010/05/arti ... e-numbers/


It seems to me that there are actually 2 parties that control the fate of porting duration. The requesting party needs to respond quickly to request and if not, will decide the efficiency of the first half. Of course there is the second party as well. So if it takes 4 days, it could be either the requestor or the loser that are using any combination of the 4 days, or 1 day if fully compliant with regulation. No?
#78877 by lbmofo
Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:08 am
Davesworld wrote:Still three days longer than what is legal

FCC mandated 1 day porting only applies to simple ports. Ports involving reseller (Ooma) are excluded. Hence, in the case of port out from Ooma, Ooma's carrier doesn't have to comply with the 1 day porting ruling (other than the 4 hour response to reject requested porting timeline within the 1 day porting parameters).

http://comptel.org//Files/Webinar/02-24 ... orting.pdf
Page 7: simple ports

http://www.kelleydrye.com/publications/ ... ories/0463
Non simple ports: (1) unbundled network elements; (2) multiple lines; (3) complex switch translations (e.g., Centrex, ISDN, AIN services, remote call forwarding, or multiple services on the loop); and (4) resellers.

Davesworld wrote:as I said in another thread, it is the losing carrier that determines how quickly the port takes place and also as I said in another thread, you are bragging about the losing carrier's handling of this, not Ooma's. We're not out of the woods yet by a long shot. Not sure how well the FCC is going to be able to enforce the new mandate of which small carriers had until Feb 2011 to comply, larger carriers were supposed to last August.

In the case of port-in to Ooma, it all depends on where the number is coming from. If number is coming from one of the big boys (and does not involve a reseller), then Ooma's carrier can request port in timeline inline with 1 day porting (we want it by next business day! Given port request submitted by 1pm local NPAC region time). I am thinking due to reasons internal to Ooma and Ooma's carriers, Ooma & carriers are asking for variable turnaround times but not 1 business day.

In this "4 day port" record, Ooma/carrier probably requested 4 days turnaround and Vonage agreed; hence, the record setting 4 day turnaround. So if a port goes through relatively fast like this one, all parties involved deserve a compliment (winning reseller ooma, winning carrier, losing carrier, possible losing reseller). We may yet see 1 day porting for numbers coming into Ooma but that will only happen with Ooma/carrier requesting 1 business day turnaround.

http://www.kelleydrye.com/publications/ ... ories/0463
"providers to complete simple ports within one business day unless the requesting provider or customer asks for more time."
#78910 by Davesworld
Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:22 pm
I was afraid there would be a loophole that I missed but it's still better than what we had. Thanks for pointing that out lbmofo. I remember when it took a month and for some it was much longer. I now understand the enthusiasm posted here for times less than a week.
#78923 by geobernd
Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:16 pm
While 4 days is not bad I agree with previous posts. Additionally - looking at the specific 'from' side (Vonage) here: I have ported from Vonage to another Provider in under 24 hours - so it looks like Vonage is actually quite capable of meeting the <1 day requirement if the winning carrier supports it...

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